[ CONSULTA ] Ojo email posible estafa para programadores

[Juan82T]

Hola buenas,

Envio este email para salir de dudas estoy al 99,9% que es estafa.
En mi caso me ha llegado en el general de gmail que utilizo para las aplicaciones de google play.

El pasado 3 de agosto recibí el primer email como este:

Primer Email:
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Ref.: Nº 1.XX.XX.000XXXXX

EUROPEAN PATENT EP2378800 (A1) "SECURE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM"

Dear Sir/Madam:

We reach out to you in the name and on behalf of our client, FMF GESTION S.L., patentee of European Patent of Invention number EP2378800, granted by the European Patents Office on 23.04.17.

(Aquí nombre mi APP )

It infringes it through the use of the system whereby so called "Push notifications" are sent and received, which is protected by the Patent of Invention "Secure Communication System". For a better understanding you can access its claims and drawings visiting the EPO (European Patent Office) website.

The different platforms offer developers the termed "Push notifications" as a way of communicating with its users.

What the Patent protects is the system used by the applications to send and receive those "Push notifications". This circuit, the process whereby notifications are sent and received, is what is protected.

We inform you that, in accordance with the Law, registered Patents confer upon its titleholder, the patentee, the right to prevent anyone without consent from using and commercialising the patented notification system.

In light of the above, we formally require you, on behalf of our client, to legalise your current illegal situation within a period of 30 days counting from the date of receipt of the present letter. This will be achieved through:

Payment of the so called Conformity Royalty, a sum which during this 30-day term amounts to 345 € per annual period (paying-in slip attached).
Acceptance of the direct debit payment of the subsequent annuities, which will be based on the conformity Royalty until the end of the right.
Immediately following the receipt of your conformity royalty payment, your Application will be registered in the EPO's register of Royalties for the patent.

Lack of conformity royalty payment within the thirty day period will trigger the following course of action by our clients:

Your Patent infraction will be formally notified to the different platforms (Apple, Google and Windows Phone). It will be demanded, in accordance with the law, that they stop offering your Application in their respective European platforms.
Loss of the price of conformity Royalty.
(The price of the royalty to be paid following the set period will be established according to the number of users, the platforms and the countries in which the App is on offer. Calculate it)
The implementation of any measures necessary to prevent the continuing violation of the Patent.
The publication of the judgement against the infringer at the expense of the guilty party.
In the event of non-compliance with the commitments set out above within the period provided, we have received instructions from our client to immediately prepare to undertake the appropriate legal action against you before a Court of Law.

Pending a solution satisfactory to all, we seize the opportunity to extend our kindest regards.


Javier Ruiz
Legal Department

http://www.notificationcommunicationpatent.com

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Supongo que es una estafa.

He recibido un segundo email diciendo:

Segundo Email:
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Ref.: Nº 1.XX.XX.000XXXXX

EUROPEAN PATENT EP2378800 (A1) "SECURE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM"

Dear developer:

According to our previous notification were we inform you about the requirement to legalize your App patent infringement we want to remember you that in the next days will end the term given to accept the two parts agreement with the payment of the conformity royalty.

In the case you don?t regulariza the situation we inform you that we will protect our rights and we will be free to proceed with the next actions:

Your Patent infraction will be formally notified to the different platforms (Apple, Google and Windows Phone). It will be demanded, in accordance with the law, that they stop offering your Application in their respective European platforms.
Loss of the price of conformity Royalty. (The price of the royalty to be paid following the set period will be established according to the number of users, the platforms and the countries in which the App is on offer. Calculate it)
The implementation of any measures necessary to prevent the continuing violation of the Patent.
The publication of the judgement against the infringer at the expense of the guilty party.
If you do have any doubt about it we recommend you to ask for legal advice.
In the event of non-compliance with the commitments set out, we will undertake the appropriate legal action against you before a Court of Law.

You have more info at:
www.notificationcommunicationpatent.com
register.epo.org/application?number=EP09834150
www.google.com/patents/EP2378800A1
Kind Regards


Javier Ruiz
Legal Department

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El supuesto origen de los emails es:
Javier Ruiz <[email protected] m>

Estafa total no? que pensáis?
Alguien mas le ha llegado este email? carpeta general o spam?

[mocelet]

Es scam, en reddit también hay gente que lo ha recibido. A mí este en concreto no pero sí había uno sobre marcas registradas en Hong Kong que me resultó curioso.

Eso no quita que existan los trolls de patentes que consiguen patentar cosas absurdas o comunes y se dedican a extorsionar, pero no es el caso.

[Juan82T]

mocelet gracias por su respuesta como siempre jeje.

También he leído varios sitios web y todos dudan de que sea real y cierto es que juegan con datos medio reales..
Digo yo que a google play no le colarían una falsa denuncia para borrar apps no?

saludos

[mocelet]

Es que si fuera verdad que lo patentado fueran las notificaciones push más que a ti tendrían que denunciar a Google y a Apple por prestar el servicio de notificaciones, les saldría más rentable. Pero como no es así envían estas cosas a pequeños desarrolladores a ver si cuela.

Me pregunto si los pagos se hacen por Western Union como en todos los casos de estafa para evitar trazabilidad Molaría que James Veitch hiciera un vídeo del caso (su serie scamalot es para partirse de risa así como sus dos charlas TED)

[Juan82T]

jaja ahora he visto un vídeo de James Veitch, la verdad vale la pena para reír un rato.

Por seguridad no he entrado en ningun link del email, si que he mirado un poco la web.

[Juan82T]

O_o ultimo mensaje recibido hoy a les 3:17 , son unos cansinos .
Voy informando para que nadie caiga.

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Ref.: Nº 1.33.XX.XXXXXX

Dear developer:

Following our last 2 notifications we contact you due to the fact that we have noticed your Conformity Royalty payment has not yet been made.

We would like to remind you that in order to avoid the commencement of legal proceedings we offered you the possibility of fixing the situation you currently find yourself in, namely that of your application infringing our patent, with a previously agreed-on Royalty.

If there has been any problem in the payment process or you wish to carry it out at some point during the following days we beg you notify us immediately so that we may cease in the actions detailed in our previous notifications:

Your Patent infraction will be formally notified to the different platforms (Apple, Google and Windows Phone). It will be demanded, in accordance with the law, that they stop offering your Application in their respective European platforms.
Loss of the price of conformity Royalty. (The price of the royalty to be paid following the set period will be established according to the number of users, the platforms and the countries in which the App is on offer).
The implementation of any measures necessary to prevent the continuing violation of the Patent.
The publication of the judgement against the infringer at the expense of the guilty party.

You can access further information at:
www.notificationcommunicationpatent.com
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP09834150
https://www.google.com/patents/EP2378800A1

Kind Regards


Javier Ruiz
Legal Department

www.notificationcommunicationpatent.com

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La verdad son muy cansinos.
Se podría contestar advirtiendo que el próximo email que reciba informaría a la policía nacional departamento de delitos informáticos.

Pero la mejor opción es ignorar y no entrar en su juego Saludos!!